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You have to build relationships first

What I want you to do,” Pretty On Top told them, “is help people put up their tepees or tents. Don’t mention the church. Don’t preach. Go out there and help them. You have to build relationships first.

I've been thinking a lot about the most effective ways to minister to people, to tell people about Jesus in a genuine manner that affects their heart. Is the most effective way to start every conversation with Jesus loves you and proceed from there, or is the most effective way to spend time with people and gain an actual friendship which then would lead to discussions about Jesus etc.

Both ways work, it's just how effective are they. How effective is bombarding someone you don't know with Jesus? I see door to door salesman as annoying, no matter what their product is, but they do make sales otherwise they wouldn't do it. The same goes for evangelizing in the same manner.

On the other hand, it seems nice to say that we should build relationships first then start talking about Jesus. That one seems the most genuine externally, that someone would take time out of their life to help another person. It builds loyalty and respect for both parties, and God knows we need more discipleship to accompany our evangelizing. My only problem for this approach is a "What if." What if someone your helping dies suddenly before you get to the point of telling them about Jesus?

Anyway, this article about Rev. Pretty On Top getting a new church building opens up later into his philosophy for the Church and loving God.

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Can you find me in this pic?

Piermont church a couple Sunday’s ago.

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Inside San Juan Chamula’s church

This religious syncretism has been misunderstood by the non-indian visitors; Tzotzil and Tzeltal ceremonies have more to do with their conception of Nature, life and death and how they had introduced the Catholisism into their own conceptions and ceremonies, than witchcraft.

It is hard for us to understand why inside the church they drink aguardiente (tough liquor) and bring eggs and candles, that there aren’t any benches to sit, that they cover their saints and put mirrors on them, etc.  But I think we just need to be more open minded and respect them, which is something that unfortunately not many Mexicans do.

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A Blessed Day

After church we drove some, ate at McDonalds, then read at Barnes and Noble.  At three p.m. JesusFirst then threw us a wedding shower.  Pastor Kim was great as this shower was more than Megan and I ever expected.  Overall, I think there were nearly 20 people that came bearing gifts. Here’s a non-definitive list of our swag (p.s. I never say ‘swag’):

  • a toaster oven, my fav.
  • a blender
  • a crock pot
  • a mixer
  • a five piece baking set
  • a blanket
  • some decorative things, Megan knows more about that stuff than I do.
  • and cash.
We also handed out a few of our financial appeal brochures and set up two meetings.  Monthly support here we come.  I wished I had thought earlier and asked Pastor Mark to say something about YWAM and show the new DTS promo video during the service.  There were several people there that I would like to see do a DTS. After the wedding shower we were prayed and prophecied over in the sanctuary by the Pastors and some of my mom’s friends.  One of the many good things about having an intercessor as a mom is her intercessor friends.  Many things were spoken over us that sounded good at the time.  Since then, many things have been forgotten, but I can remember a lot of words that confirmed what God’s been speaking to us about ministry. Today was a good day.  The rest of the week will be extremely busy as we try to gain monthly financial supporters, which means interacting with people.  Something that neither of us really like to do, but can.  Megan's better at it than me.

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Take My Life, Please: The Indian Version

“Tales of an Urban Indian,” which is being revived as part of the Public Lab series, doesn’t belittle or romanticize, but it still seems as formulaic as any Hollywood movie, a standard-issue coming-of-age tale about early romantic angst, surviving tragedy, and the thorny question of assimilation. Mr. Dennis adopts an ingratiating persona, cracking jokes at his own expense and turning church into a Fosse-like musical theater number. The pacing and tone often resemble those of a comedy club act. But that’s what makes Mr. Dennis a somewhat strange critic of cultural stereotyping. Whites here are distant and condescending. West Coasters are laid back and stoned. And when he anthropomorphizes the cockroaches in his apartment, they speak in a Mexican accent. It’s telling that when he sees God in an epiphany, it’s Jackie Mason.

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A Year in Perspective : Portland

This time last year I was on a totally different course in life. I was ready to take on Bible College along with the considerable amount of debt that accompanied it.  I figured getting a degree with a well known Bible College would make my work in ministry respectable.  And by throwing around these words like "work in ministry" and "respectable" I mean getting a prestigious paid job within a ministry.  Of course I don't believe that all students in bible colleges around the world are like that.  All I mean is that was how I felt.  It was at bible college where I found that you can be in ministry and still make a pretty good living, which I was all  for.  The only problem was I didn't like the school. 

Sure it was a good school and many benefit from it year after year, but I didn't.  Oh yeah, and my heart motives weren't right. I did find a church body in Portland that accepted me right away.  A Christian and Missionary Alliance church called Mosaic.  By my second visit to the church I was already invited to the worship team meeting.  By my third sunday there, they got me started working on the sound board.  Things came easy at that church.  People there were extremely friendly and open to me.  The leaders were nice to me and accessible, and I even started forming a friendship with the founding pastor of the church.  His heart is in church planting and I believe God's leading me into areas like that. 

I shared with him some of what I was thinking at the time and he listened, and he got excited.  Then he told me to set up a time next semester to talk with him more in depth. Mosaic also had a ministry that reached out to the Warm Springs reservation in Oregon.  The hearts of the people that worked with the churches in Warm Springs were unmatched in love and devotion for Native Americans.  At that church, I was set. But things changed. A year ago today was when I felt an urgency towards discipling Native Americans.  In the years prior I'd received more and more of a hearts desire to see the gospel prepared and delivered to the hearts and minds of America's Indigenous. 

It was God moving me towards them.  It was God sharing his heart with mine and creating a bond, a partnership, with me.  At that moment, praying in the small chapel on Multnomah's campus, was when I discovered that God wanted to walk with me and reach out to and love all of America's Indigenous (from the top of Canada to the bottom most part of Chilé).  And on my birthday in 2008, God gave me a mission, a goal towards America's Indigenous.  A vision that spread to every single tribe throughout North, Central, and South America.  At the end of that intimate prayer time, God told me "now go."  I said "what?"  God said "go." Things just started working out for me in Portland.  Life was settling down.  What did God mean by go? (This post became longer than expected so I broke it up into two segments.  I'll post the next one tomorrow.)

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Redcloud : Saved | hiphopdx.com

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/features/id.788/title.underground-report-pigeon-john-musab-redcloud/p.7

Redcloud’s story isn’t your everyday tale. How does a gangster become a Christian? How does a kid who wants to drop out end up graduating with a high grade point average? How does a local “Christian rapper” get Kurupt and Jayo Felony to appear on his album? His life’s been unpredictable, but he’s made good.

His childhood is such a compelling story, that it’s better if he tells it.

“A lot of people out here in L.A. got single moms. But not only did I have a single mother who had me at like 18, she also gave me up for adoption when I was like 8 months. So, I was raised by an entirely different family who started out as my baby sitters and then just ended up taking the parental guidance to raise me. My birth mother slowly stopped coming around and before you know it, the family that was baby sitting me ended up being the family that raised me to this very day.

Growing up in Hawthorne (California) is just really, really, tough. I never got to meet my birth father but the father that raised me, who taught me how to talk, walk and carried me on his shoulders…he grew up in Redondo Beach. He was in a gang called Redondo 13. When he had my two older brothers, he moved four blocks east to a city called Lawndale. And the kids of that neighborhood came up to my older brothers and boom, my brothers were up in Lawndale 13.

By the time I came in, he moved to Hawthorne. So, the gangs in Hawthorne hit me up to be part of that set. So, at a very young age, I was exposed to the gang lifestyle, the gang culture by my older brothers, my pops, my cousins, my family. I was getting tattooed by sixth grade. I had already gotten in mad trouble by seventh grade. The street life out here swallowed me up as soon as it could. When you’re a kid out here and you feel like you don’t belong to nothing and you feel like you don’t have a family and you feel like you’re on your own and you’re questioning your entire existence, and you got these cats out here like ‘Yo, we’ll be your family, homie. We got your back…’ Loyalty means everything to me. Man, I’m just loyal to my crew, my hood and Hawthorne since sixth grade. That’s how I saw it in my older brothers and my Pops and my family. I got jumped into a gang in sixth grade, dude. In 8th grade, I already decided that I wasn’t going to go to high school and that I was gonna run the streets and do the business.”


But life had other plans. As he explained, he was about to ditch school when a Hip-Hop assembly was held at his school. Little did he know, the assembly would hold inspirational emcees that looked like gang members of his neighborhood. Their message of peace over violence had a deep impact for the students in the school including classmate and current NFL player Dennis Northcutt, who stood up against the gang violence as well that day. When the MC’s passed flyers, Redcloud only saw “Free Hip-Hop Show.” Inspired, a young Redcloud walked to the address on the flyer, unaware that he would arrive at a church.

This introduction to Christianity and God changed his perspective on life and gangs. In a room filled with rival gang members and former gang members, bloods and otherwise, Redcloud found a new family, that he felt was sincere. He felt he was saved.

The new life came at a price.

“To get jumped out, I hit up my homeboy Bam-Bam. This dude got the High School cats and the Samoans from high school. I’m in 8th grade, getting jumped out by these high school cats. They smashed me up! Half the school was there…It was terrible, dog. It was like three Mexican dudes and three Samoan cats. You know what Samoan cats look like, dog. They were kicking me when I was down. Just when I thought it was over and I heard them say ‘Yo, stop! He’s had enough,’ I was ready to get up in a push-up position on the floor. This cat named Stomper stomps on the back of my head right into the concrete and puts this huge knot on my forehead.

They had busted all of my blood vessels/blood capillaries. Just the white of my eyes were blood red. They were both blood red eyes with little black pupils. I looked like a demon. The knot on my head was like freaking Rahman!

That takes forever to heal! Most fools don’t have the courage to get jumped out, but I did, man.”


While he suffered through ridicule, in the streets and at home, for leaving the gang life behind, he later proved he was a survivor by honing his freestyle battle skills. His success in murking cats in rap battles got the same gangsters who ridiculed him to give him props.

Those props later earned him a record deal with Syntax Records. Through this, he kept proving his skills and sharpening his sword through various lyrical battles. Finally, he reached out to mainstream radio at Power 106 in Los Angeles. He battled on air and won notoriety to the point that Kurupt decided to give the station a ring. “We’re definitely looking for cats like you on the Row,” he said, noting legendary label Death Row. Suge Knight was present as well, showing praise.

Later, Kurupt and Redcloud got to speak about how they went to high school together and a track came out of that connection. Kurupt reached out to Felony and that track was made. His connections with The Visionaries put together another track. Little by little, this new album was formed. With production by Tim from Syntax, Pigeon John and others, the new album comes with a host of new topics most don’t speak about, as well as a nice mixture of appealing bounce-driven hits to balance it all out.

Redcloud’s unique style of complex, yet down-to-earth, every-man rhymes appears on his new LP Hawthorne’s Most Wanted, full of thought provoking songs, as well as enjoyable West Coast bounce music.

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Fry Bread, Tambourines and James 1:27 - Radiant Magazine

http://www.radiantmag.com/article.php?ID=445

This place wasn’t in “the middle of nowhere.” It was nowhere. Try searching for it on Google Maps—you won’t find it. The “Welcome to Teesto!” sign was exactly a fourth of a mile from a sign that informed visitors, “You are now leaving Teesto.” I walked out of church the first week (after a three-hour service, half of which was in Navajo) wondering how I would ever make it through the 16 weeks of Sundays at Teesto Assembly of God.

It was nothing like church back at home. The last time I had sat in a pew for an extended amount of time could have been traced back to my Lutheran grade-school years; but my nine years of morning chapels and Christmas-pageant rehearsals still hadn’t taught me how to sit in a pew and be comfortable. 

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